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27 July 2009 @ 09:15 pm
The Worldwide Minority - are you part of it?  
Before reading further I need to clarify what I mean when I use the word minority in this context as this word seems to have caused some upset. I am in no way claiming to be on par or comparable to the minorities who have through the ages suffered due to their ethnicity, sexuality, religion or Culture.I  am only referring the fact that statistically many of us fall into a group that is out with the perceived mainstream in our popular cultural choices in film, tv, theatre, literature and music .
So to the original post.
 I apologise for this rant, but I can hold it in no longer, I've tried. 
Worldwide minority; this was defined by myself and a group of friends , a few years back, as those of us who still, despite no longer being teenagers, enjoy well written sci-fi & fantasy, from Terry Pratchett to BSG  and a lot in between. We also tend not to want endless soaps, reality TV or Jeremy Kyle (poor man's Jerry Springer) it' s amazing how many of us are out there and often those you wouldn't expect, try talking to people.
Thinking about all the comments flying around about how it is only a very few of us that are upset over CoE, I found myself thinking about the fact that I have accepted the fact that I am part of this worldwide minority. I am lucky though that I work for a small company that employs 12 people in the UK and  4 of us are part of this minority, I mean they hired me after I used Buffy as the basis of my presentation at the job interview.
We like Buffy, Angel, Firefly,BSG, Dr Who (pre Matt Smith), Torchwood S1-2, Reaper, The Wire and we do get a bit obsessive  about the programmes we love.  The strange thing is when we love a show we bring our friends with us and when annoyed or betrayed we leave again.
We Mr Davies whether you like it or not are the ones that got Torchwood from the obscurity of BBC3 to BBC1, by being loyal and encouraging others , so without us you couldn't have got there, something to ponder on when considering future projects.  I know I am not the only one who will not bother with your efforts again as there is no point in investing in your characters as the odds are they will be killed or I need to have amnesia or be retconned as regards previous plot/backplot.
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ally_p_xally_p_x on July 27th, 2009 08:20 pm (UTC)
I am a minority as well! Apparantly.

Erinetmuse on July 27th, 2009 08:25 pm (UTC)
I think the fact that any of us read these comms means we are in that 'minority'.

Although I think you might be a tad unfair in limiting your Dr Who likage to pre-Matt Smith - I think we need to at least give the guy a chance to show us what he can do!
(and remember, by the time we get to his eps, Rusty will have nothing to do with Dr Who anymore!)
non sum pisces: RTD: KILLED our IANTO & I hate himnever_more_cat on July 27th, 2009 08:37 pm (UTC)
Hello, my name is Ruth and I am a minority.

Oh, and RTD is a cock. TRUFAX.
I'd call you a genius but I'm in the roomelfinessy on July 27th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
Your icon is brilliant!!!
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I'd call you a genius but I'm in the roomelfinessy on July 27th, 2009 08:46 pm (UTC)
::hand up:: I'm definitely in that minority.
gingerbreadlass: jantogingerbreadlass on July 27th, 2009 08:55 pm (UTC)
Member of the minority and proud. X-Men fan (I got into it before the third film and my two favourite characters got offed in the first hour, now onto the comics for my fix) and partial to a little Star Trek every now and again. Doctor Who occasionally gets too silly for me but I do like it. I also possess a very addictive personality, to the point where I get too emotionally invested and am consequently upset.

Woohoo, am I out of the majority closet now? This makes me happy. :D
Sugar: me toojovialien on July 27th, 2009 08:58 pm (UTC)
"Even if 90 percent look away, what sort of a world are you leaving behind?"

I am a minority.
anfarwolalicatt13 on July 27th, 2009 09:32 pm (UTC)
Part of the minority and proud. Except we're not really a minority, are we? Sci Fi fans are a huge population world-wide. Just think of the hundreds and hundreds of cons.
ANd out of Torchwood fans, so far I haven't met any that were happy about what happened. Of course, there are some I know that aren't nearly as upset as I am, but so far no one I actually know was pleased with the turn of events or was like, that's sad but it makes so much sense.
Still, I'm proud to be a part of you lot, majority or minority.
techmusetechmuse on July 27th, 2009 10:08 pm (UTC)
"I want to be the minority - I don't need your authority - down with the RTD majority - I want to be the minority" I changed the moral to RTD, but anyhoo this song popped in my head while reading the article. If you read the lyrics they actually kind of fit. I am proud to be a part of this minority...and will continue to appreciate posts like these that continue to give voice to our displeasure with RTD and his attitude of blatant disregard to the fans.
wandering diversion: gd puppy pilesurreality_fan on July 27th, 2009 10:26 pm (UTC)
MWAHAHAHA! I have totally had Minority in my head since I first saw this post... granted it is sandwiched near a Green Day comm post on my f-list. I also just saw Green Day in concert in Philly and they played Minority.

Mine is a many faceted geekiness. I can even geek about cool stuff. *nods*

Long Live Ianto!

Edited at 2009-07-27 10:27 pm (UTC)
ThunderingLunie: Torchwood - RTDlunachickk on July 27th, 2009 10:34 pm (UTC)
Screw minority. We Are Legion.
artemis314artemis314 on July 27th, 2009 11:02 pm (UTC)
I am very much in this minority with you. I read an interview where Mr. Davies was an absolute ass to people that feel the way we do, he was so condescending and petty about the whole thing I don't think I'll tune in to anything else he comes up with. The truth is that the only reason I even watched "Children of Earth" was Ianto so I have no reason to return if the show ever comes back since I have no interest in Gwen or the cartoon that Jack has become.
sarahjane6 on July 27th, 2009 11:16 pm (UTC)
HEY, I'm a member of a minority group!

Too often creative people forget who helped them become successful, they become assured that THEIR talent is enough and we the little people should be grateful that they allow us to watch the results of their great talent...then they fail and fall into obscurity. I can't wait!
RogueMarch: Torchwood: Sweet Jantoness!roguemarch on July 28th, 2009 03:34 am (UTC)
Minority here. And damn proud.
pondelion on July 28th, 2009 08:46 am (UTC)
I am a minority.
rmrm on July 28th, 2009 12:26 pm (UTC)
Subcutlures, because they are by definition not the mainstream dominant culture, are technically minorities.

But here's the deal, I'm a minority because I'm queer, because I'm Jewish, because I am not as white as look.

Engaging with entertainment in a non-culturally dominant way may be responsible for affecting the tone of huge swathes of my life, but it doesn't define it. Being a member of an actual minority does.

I am not a minority because I like SF/F or because I cried and cried and cried for Ianto or even because I have an unpopular fannish opinion in the sense that I'm not all worked up about RTD and whether he respects fandom or not -- I don't care, I don't need his approval.

Believe me, I get what you are saying. For older fen in particular, there is this very real sense of being in this small, sort of looked down upon subculture and since many of us interact with the world differently than the mainstream (there are studies on the high incidence of the non-neurotypical in the fannish community), I do sort of get why you chose this angle to frame your point.

But with things like Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Comic Con, Dragon*Con, and, yes, the Children of Earth miniseries, fannishness is now a pretty nearly mainstream activity.

But more than that: no one ever threw beer bottles at me for being fannish. No one ever threatened to rape me for being fannish. No one fucking threatened to beat my face in with a brick for being fannish. They have (the first two) because I was gay and (the third) because I'm Jewish.

Considering one of the biggest plot points, and now fandom controversies, relates to the show's handling of Ianto's sexually, you really might want to check yourself here.

I am a minority and it's not because I loved a man who never was, even though I did.

Edited at 2009-07-28 01:19 pm (UTC)
The Sandwich of Solidarity: no waishane_mayhem on July 28th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)

I think people need to do a little tiny bit of reality-checking here. I understand the argument that "the real world sucks and is full of pain, thus fandom, etc..." but honestly? "Minority" in the way they are using it here is a very culturally laden word, and it comes with a history of oppression and violence, not of feeling betrayed because the producer of your favorite TV show killed off your favorite character.

I mean, really.

I'm a minority because I'm gay and transgendered. And proud of it.

I'm also aware that there are people who are even more in the minority than I am (black, Jewish, Muslim, what have you) and I'm proud of them for being who they are. In real life.
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